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    So it's time for me to change my conversion frame. And part of me is thinking about going mixte, just to be a little different and to feel more androgynous with my bad self.

    Problem is I'm 5'11" and I never see any mixte frames above 54cm. I'd need somewhere in the ballpark of 56-58cm to make it work. Do these even exist? Any idea where to start looking?Think you're escaping and run into yourself. Longest way round is the shortest way home.
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    mixte?there ain't no magic in the breakdown baby
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      CommentAuthoriPhone Punk
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2008 edited
     
    Jesus, Richard...

    It has two top tubes that meet the rear in three stays, to make that happen, the top tubes travel down toward the rear from the steerer, split by the seat tube. So, it's a step-through (or, my favorite name, "sawtooth") frame, hence it's a lady's bike; which may explain why you cannot often find them in larger sizes.

    And I believe it's a french design, originally to strengthen the integral geometry of a step-through in motion, which flex like a wishbone under load. Am I wrong?Jockin' Mike D. to my dismay!
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    Mixte!

    Think you're escaping and run into yourself. Longest way round is the shortest way home.
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    oh, those are pretty lame!

    (no offense)there ain't no magic in the breakdown baby
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    ^^Yeah, that's correct.

    "Mixte" means "unisex" in French, although penis-obsessed Americans think they're just girl bikes. Which is why you can't find tall ones here.

    I also think they look classy, and even if you're a dude who wears pants it's just nice to have a step-through frame on an everyday bike.Think you're escaping and run into yourself. Longest way round is the shortest way home.
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      CommentAuthoriPhone Punk
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2008 edited
     
    ^ Yeah, I agree. The proper term is step-through, which accomodated proper lady's wearing dresses and gentlemen riding in formal attire. Having nothing to do with the height or flexibility of the rider, which, you know. Lady's are more flexible so it plain doesn't make sense to look at it like a girl can't get her leg over a bike. They can better than we, naturally, because they spread their legs to get insiminated or drop a bastard off in the world! Ha, ha.Jockin' Mike D. to my dismay!
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    ^^^Good point. I'll just buy an overpriced track frame with no fender mounts instead.Think you're escaping and run into yourself. Longest way round is the shortest way home.
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    ^ exactly!there ain't no magic in the breakdown baby
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    In the early 1800's, the prime minister banned lady frames because he enjoyed watching women get their legs up and over. True.Jockin' Mike D. to my dismay!
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    ^ smart and sexy plan!there ain't no magic in the breakdown baby
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    ^ Yeah, just don't ask me which prime minister, of where, or his name or anything. Ha, ha.Jockin' Mike D. to my dismay!
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    ^ clearly this is a sign that we need to enter into the political arena!there ain't no magic in the breakdown baby
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    You know what I'm saying? All this talk about Change, and it's like, shit's fine for me the way it is right now. The only real problem in America is the manner in which women still shake hands instead of giving introductory rubouts.Jockin' Mike D. to my dismay!
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    ^ well we need to get our names on the ballot for 08!there ain't no magic in the breakdown baby
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    CHINA'S NEXT!

    Love My Punk in 08!Jockin' Mike D. to my dismay!
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    i think it's be sweet to ride a tall (would fit normal sizing) mixte as a fixed gear, if anything just to see how much flex/torque you could get out of it.
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    rob, that mixte's done up right. would you have similar plans for one?You're purposefully attempting to sabotage my degree project. Thanks.
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    My plan would be:

    Fixed or internal hub--I think the combination of a mixte's unique rear triangle with the clean derailler-less look is amazing.

    Add a half chainguard and fenders.

    Handlebars would depend. Maybe moustache bars, maybe cruiser-style, maybe a nice set of rando drops. Depends on how it looks/feels.

    And that front rack looks sexy.Think you're escaping and run into yourself. Longest way round is the shortest way home.
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    OooOooooh...



    That's the ticket!

    Minus the yellow fender stays.Think you're escaping and run into yourself. Longest way round is the shortest way home.
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    ^Yeah, that's better looking than most mixte frames I've seen.Word nerd
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    wow, i might have to take my earlier comment back, that is a hot bike!there ain't no magic in the breakdown baby
    • CommentAuthor1020AM
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008 edited
     

    Someone just donated one of these to the bike coop I work at.

    I fuckin' love it - the Black Wind?!. Relatively light. It has this weird matte finish that does not scratch. Like anodized paint or something?

    Most mixte's were pieces of shit but some european companies made really nice ones. This being one of them. It was made by both Austro-Daimler and Puch - basically the same company. Motobecane also made some of decent quality. I believe these companies made mixte's in a larger size. Maybe Peugot as well?

    Unfortunately, ours doesn't have period parts on it. Someone swapped out the dura-ace for Huret and the cranks are generic.

    Original Specs:

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    can't believe nobody's posted "stuff white people like" on this thread yet.

    come on..."mixte" frames? i'm so impressed by the sophistication and refined tastes here.
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      CommentAuthorkaryatid
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
     
    Mixte Peugeots are where it's at. I don't know if they make them tall, but I've seen some fairly large ones kicking around town.

    Also, in general, the step-through geometry is more relaxed/upright, yeah? So your frame doesn't need to be quite so huge? Or is that a misconception on my part?

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      CommentAuthorMr. Shelby
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
     
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    Maybe I should've labelled this "Bike Porn" instead!

    I do love the Poogies, but so many of the old ones have horrific French threading going on. I've seen one or two in the 21" range that might work, though.

    Maybe a smaller frame could work, I guess the challenge is more aesthetic: I tend to not like it when my bike is has a ton of seatpost and stem going on.

    I don't get the mixte haterade. How is a useful mixte more "whitey" than a pretentious art school kid on a candy colored track bike talking about "the zen* experience?"

    *Side note: I study zen. I went to a week-long Zen retreat last fall. Woke up at 3 every day to sit in meditation for 18 hours a day. Got koans from a 101 year old Japanese roshi.

    Nothing at all like riding a fixed gear bike. Trust me on this. Well, except for the knee pain. But other than that, nothing.Think you're escaping and run into yourself. Longest way round is the shortest way home.
    • CommentAuthorboundgear
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
     
    +1 or mu
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    ^Therein proving that cows manifest the greatest Buddha-nature.Think you're escaping and run into yourself. Longest way round is the shortest way home.
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      CommentAuthorMr. Shelby
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2008
     
    robsolete:Maybe I should've labelled this "Bike Porn" instead!


    it'd be like chicks with dicks!