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      CommentAuthorrobotbuilder
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2008 edited
     
    ^Is it the same shape? (I can't tell from the pictures.)[all your base are belong to us]
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      CommentAuthorMr. Shelby
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2008 edited
     

    152 X 288mm

    152 X 280mm
    same width, but the swallow's slightly longer
    and i think the swift's larger rivets look better, and it's over $130 cheaper then the swallow at wallbike.com
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    ^Cool, thanks![all your base are belong to us]
    • CommentAuthorraff I el
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2008
     
    165 mm cranks with 110 BCD. those exist, right?Geryon was a monster everything about him was red.
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      CommentAuthorMr. Shelby
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2008 edited
     
    cheap ones definitely. i wouldn't put much trust into them though. i found a bulletproof crank arm the fell off someone's bike sitting in the middle of harvard ave.

    and i think 110bcd is dumb
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    ^^^I think I may go for the cro-mo Swift. At the moment I can't justify a $309 Swallow. (But it is hard to pass-up the deal.) Agh! ConsumER! I am the worst.
    -spendbot[all your base are belong to us]
    • CommentAuthorraff I el
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008 edited
     
    pete! gigantic:cheap ones definitely. i wouldn't put much trust into them though. i found a bulletproof crank arm the fell off someone's bike sitting in the middle of harvard ave.

    and i think 110bcd is dumb


    having a crank arm fall off sounds like a user error to me, and one kind of unrelated to the quality of the crank itself, but rather (if anything) the bolt connecting it to the bb. what kind of pedal was attached?

    also, i've got a ratio I like, (50/19, lots of skid patches and good for hills) and the chainring i have is a 110 Surly, but i want shorter, non-road cranksGeryon was a monster everything about him was red.
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      CommentAuthortravisW
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008
     
    raff I el:having a crank arm fall off sounds like a user error to me, and one kind of unrelated to the quality of the crank itself, but rather (if anything) the bolt connecting it to the bb. what kind of pedal was attached?

    also, i've got a ratio I like, (50/19, lots of skid patches and good for hills) and the chainring i have is a 110 Surly, but i want shorter, non-road cranks
    I have some 165 shimano 600 cranks, they are 110. They may be bent, but you can check them out with your ring if you want. I like the looks of them a lot, but got some RD2's. I was going to hold on to them for a conversion i am planning for this summer, but if you want to check them out.

    *not track cranks, and have never fallen off.boooyah
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      CommentAuthorHamburger
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008 edited
     
    looking for a 50 cm (or, about 19 inches) frame, track or conversion, for a project. i would prefer a 700 or 650 front wheel clearance. i've got some parts to trade (shimano 600 cranks with ring, bb's, wheels, etc...) if that's your thing.

    edit: also searching for a 165 mm non-drive crank arm, any color or design -- the cheaper the better.People make decisions.
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      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008
     
    I HAVE ONE. heh

    well... 50cm c-t, about 45cm c-c.
    I'm looking to sell though... for like.. $200 or so...Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
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      CommentAuthorBuckley!
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008 edited
     
    raff I el:also, i've got a ratio I like, (50/19, lots of skid patches and good for hills) and the chainring i have is a 110 Surly, but i want shorter, non-road cranks

    Holy crapzorz you ride with a saw blade on that thing. Please, if you're going to ride with a 50 tooth chain ring, will you at least get a real track crankset. Or at least something with a 130 bolt circle.The kid's gotta learn that the game never lets up.
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      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008
     
    ^ HahahaQuestion Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
    • CommentAuthorraff I el
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008
     
    buckley.:
    will you at least get a real track crankset.


    I'm trying! I'm trying! also, can someone explain to me why BCD matters at all?i just thought it was about making sure everything was compatible.Geryon was a monster everything about him was red.
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      CommentAuthormur
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008
     
    ^ you're applying the torque to the chainring quite close to the axis of rotation (the bottom bracket spindle), at the ends of the spider arms. the resistance load is on the outer edge of the chainring. the farther apart these two values are the greater chance you're going to lose some clean power transfer, especially if you are using a non-stellar chainring, as it will flex from your crank force being applied so far away from the load counter-force.~(..,)~ (oYo) make whoopee not war (oYo) ~(..,)~
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      CommentAuthormrotown
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    mur:^ you're applying the torque to the chainring quite close to the axis of rotation (the bottom bracket spindle), at the ends of the spider arms. the resistance load is on the outer edge of the chainring. the farther apart these two values are the greater chance you're going to lose some clean power transfer, especially if you are using a non-stellar chainring, as it will flex from your crank force being applied so far away from the load counter-force.



    But I'd argue that if you're using a square taper bottom bracket you really shouldn't stress about your BCD and power transfer, because the BCD isn't the weak link in that system.e-f-f-e-c-t a smooth operater operating correctly
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      CommentAuthorDan Roch
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    fi'zi:k ArioneEverybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaning they are unemployed - Prince Philip during the recession in 1981
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    Still want some dumb, used aero track/pursuit frame from 56-59. :(But the fact of the matter is: Bones heal. Chicks dig scars. And the United States of America has the best doctor-to-daredevil ratio in the world!
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      CommentAuthorBuckley!
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    Dan Roch:fi'zi:k Arione

    Those are pretty awesome. Look on Ebay. I think I paid 60 or 70 for mine.The kid's gotta learn that the game never lets up.
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    ^+1

    Those are nice saddles from what I hear. I like the Selle Italia SLR's too, which run ~ $100 on ebay. I think. Still cheaper than any local shop, which is a bummer. Be sure to check local shops too and see if they can cut you a deal/have one from a demo bike/or something that you could get.clockwork ted: this is my favorite thread. sweet BJ alexi!
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      CommentAuthorDan Roch
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    yeah i've been keeping my eyes pealed for them on ebayEverybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaning they are unemployed - Prince Philip during the recession in 1981
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      CommentAuthorBuckley!
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    Currently 52.50. Closes in an hour and a half

    $31. Closes in four hours, a little beat up.

    Black w/ blue stripe Under $20. 10 hours to go.The kid's gotta learn that the game never lets up.
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      CommentAuthorDan Roch
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    im going after the blue oneEverybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaning they are unemployed - Prince Philip during the recession in 1981
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      CommentAuthorBuckley!
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    I also saw one with a BIN of $99 offered in either black w/ brown stripe or white w/ gray. Total shame about the price, though.The kid's gotta learn that the game never lets up.
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      CommentAuthorDan Roch
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    hmm, i would consider it though i think im going to try and get it for a little cheaper than that though i like the brown and blackEverybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaning they are unemployed - Prince Philip during the recession in 1981
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      CommentAuthorBuckley!
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    I would consider it, too, if it weren't for that price. It'll probably get relisted eventually with an ebayable price.The kid's gotta learn that the game never lets up.
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      CommentAuthorDan Roch
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    it would be nice if they were just cheaper to begin withEverybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaning they are unemployed - Prince Philip during the recession in 1981
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      CommentAuthorBuckley!
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    Seriously. You want fancy toys, you gotta pay for the fancy.The kid's gotta learn that the game never lets up.
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      CommentAuthorDan Roch
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008 edited
     
    49T 130BCD chainringEverybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaning they are unemployed - Prince Philip during the recession in 1981
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      CommentAuthorBuckley!
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    I've got a used 48 tooth 130 BCD chainring. $10 and it's yours. It's dirty, though.The kid's gotta learn that the game never lets up.
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      CommentAuthorMr. Shelby
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    i am looking for a 7700 series dura ace fd, and dura ace 7700 or 7800 brakeset. maybe a wheel set with da 9/10speed hubs (can you see the trend?)
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      CommentAuthorDan Roch
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008 edited
     
    well i have a 48T which ill probably just use for now but i want 49X17 for road and 49X15 for trackEverybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaning they are unemployed - Prince Philip during the recession in 1981
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      CommentAuthorBuckley!
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    I'll also throw in a 14 tooth dura ace cog. Also dirty.The kid's gotta learn that the game never lets up.
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      CommentAuthorDan Roch
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    ohhh, can i just buy that?Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaning they are unemployed - Prince Philip during the recession in 1981
    • CommentAuthorboundgear
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    I'm looking for
    -Son 38 hub
    -Atlantis frame
    -Gillees Berthoud carbon fenders
    -Lumotec Oval Plus headlight
    -VO Porteur Rack

    For like 20 bucks? No?
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      CommentAuthorBuckley!
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    Dan Roch:ohhh, can i just buy that?

    Sure. $10.The kid's gotta learn that the game never lets up.
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      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    WTB - 15t 3/32 fixed cog. Anyone?
    Also, a brake and brake lever...Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
    • CommentAuthorsaucy
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2008
     
    ravnos i have an ultegra front brake if your interested?

    also im looking to pick up a threadless stem with like NO reach. less than 70 mm? (1 1/8)
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      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2008 edited
     
    I definitely Have that for you I think. Let me measure it.

    Edit: Not sure how to measure a stem. But the thing is no more than 90mm, MAX. And it's got a sharp angle... so... like.. almost half that.

    How does one measure a stem?


    it's 1 1/8 and like... 80mm with a 30 or 45 degree angle (I'm not good at eyeballing these things).Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
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      CommentAuthormur
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2008
     
    ~52cm (non-track) time trial frame.~(..,)~ (oYo) make whoopee not war (oYo) ~(..,)~
    • CommentAuthorsaucy
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2008
     
    thanks for the offer ravnos. im sort of looking for something smaller at the moment. but if youre interested in the brake let me know. that goes for everyone.

    again. just looking for a super small threadless stem that will shorten my body extension/not ruin my back.
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      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2008 edited
     
    I need a 26mm seatpost (I THINK).
    I checked around and another forum posted that as the size for this frame.
    I should still probably double-check, but I think this is probably worth going with.
    Anyone have one laying around?

    Also - measured the frame... I think I need a brake about 60mm... that seems the approx. reach.

    Anyone?Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
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      CommentAuthorMr. Shelby
    • CommentTimeFeb 28th 2008 edited
     
    anyone gotta 28.6mm clamp for a braze on shimano front derailleur?

    i actually need 2 of them.
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      CommentAuthorMr. Shelby
    • CommentTimeFeb 28th 2008
     
    woot!!
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    okay, so i'm looking for a 650 fork(1in.)...i could just order one..but yeah if anyone had one kicking around..or knew of one that wasn't so pricey let me know. suggestions are naturally always welcome.
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    just found one..
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      CommentAuthorDan Roch
    • CommentTimeFeb 29th 2008
     
    anyone have a headset press i could borrow i need to pick one up for sunday so i would like to pick it up some time tomorrow...Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaning they are unemployed - Prince Philip during the recession in 1981
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      CommentAuthorMr. Shelby
    • CommentTimeFeb 29th 2008
     
    gravityhurtz101:okay, so i'm looking for a 650 fork(1in.)...i could just order one..but yeah if anyone had one kicking around..or knew of one that wasn't so pricey let me know. suggestions are naturally always welcome.
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    just found one..


    i have an if 650c fork, 1" threadless.
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    still looking for a 47 tooth chain ring and a new saddle of the sleek versionride bikes for money not for fun(unless your drunk)
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      CommentAuthorBuckley!
    • CommentTimeFeb 29th 2008
     
    I've still got that saddle for you. I'll throw it in my bag before boldsprints this sunday.The kid's gotta learn that the game never lets up.