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    I'm okay, but, I was on my way to Burgerz's house to buy a chainring off him and going on Mass Ave. After Harvard Square, the road gets a little crazy and cuts down to one vary narrow lane. Since the lane was so narrow, the stretch was so short, and nobody should be approaching that intersection at any speed anyway, I took the whole lane. Guy in a silver Subaru Forester gets really mad and starts revving his engine behind me, and as soon as the road opoens up, goes in the oncoming traffic lane to pass me. As soon as he passes me, he cuts in front of me and slams on the brakes hard and I go into his rear bumper. We exchange a few choice words, and a guy who was in a volvo behind him calls him a "real sicko" for doing that and waits with me while I call the police. Two other witnesses decide to wait with me as well.

    First the fire department came to make sure I was okay, and when I told them what happened, one of them tells me he doesn't doubt that that's what actually happened, he sees stuff like this all the time and waits with me until the police get there. The two witnesses left as soon as the fire department arrives, but guy driving the volvo stays.

    Two policemen show up, and policeman A talks to me while policeman B talks to the drivers. Volvo driver tells policeman B he didn't really see what happened and doesn't want to get any more involved. After a few minutes, policeman B comes up to me and tells me not to worry, everything's fine, the driver has decided not to press charges. When I tell him I want to press charges for assault, policeman B tells me it's a "he said, he said" situation and there's nothing he can do, especially since I wasn't hurt and nothing happened to the bike. The cops then send me on my way but promise me they'll have words with the driver.

    The fuck?!

    Morgie told me to call Cambridge Police and get the names of the officers and a police report copy and gave me the number of a lawyer, which I did, but what the fuck? What else am I supposed to do?Girls on bikes really turn my crank
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    yeah dude, call a lawyer. hurt or not, the guy just assaulted you with a motor vehicle, and should be in jail.

    i guess since there's nothing wrong with you or the bike tho, it's really about whether you want to justify spending time/money to get someone in trouble.

    or...

    post his info...
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    i highly doubt they filled a police report for you christiaan.
    Yes i would get their names and complain. at best shoot for something that goes on file, otherwise it's pointless.
    from what it sounds, unfortunately you hit him, which is totally bullshit and reckless driving on his part, but without proper witnesses it is a he said she said situation.
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    lol it's not a 'she said', stupid.
    • CommentAuthorBAUMANN
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2010 edited
     
    ^^^ agreed, that is some fucked up shit, glad you are ok. How didn't the guy in the volvo see what happened? Without a witness it might be hard to prove in court, but definitely worth calling a lawyer or someone to weigh your options.RIDE METAL
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    If I run up to someone and punch them in the stomach, but they're not injured, I'm pretty sure they'd charge me with assault. So, assault with a motor vehicle.

    Get that guy in jail, or at least get some money out of it.Naaaah, too uncool for the #messlyfe. I just like to hang out in loading docks and pretend to talk on my radio so that people will like me. - Mfratt
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    so, he didn't write down what happened? when i was knocked out i got a copy 'o the report put in my pants for me. it should be logged at the station. dunno how that works.

    um, some jerk tried to run into me and i had a third party witness tell the cop what happened and the cop told me he'd arrest the guy for assault with a motor vehicle but i admitted to pulling out and had a wrench in my hand, so he said he'd give him a warning and just make it go away. that was probably in some sense to my benefit but fuck the system, just start a street war, if you can get away with it.

    also, post his info.
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    ^karl, i'm bummed you posted that gif. I genuinely have nightmares and daydream-mares about getting crushed by cars, that's about the vision I have and it sucks to see it for real.
    • CommentAuthorgc
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2010
     
    your account of the situation is a little unclear.

    after (deliberately) hitting you, the forester driver stuck around until the cops (that you called) showed up?gone
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    ^^
    well you gotta 'keep it real"
    a tiny percentage of car drivers are real assholes and despise bikers.
    I've had my share of people swinging doors into me, pulling the same shit as happened to christiaan, or just deliberately trying to run me off the road.
    life sucks, wear a helmet.
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    just go nuts, kill everybody.
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    He stuck around. Assumedly because of the number of people who saw it, or at least saw me run into him and not wanting to get charged with a hit and run as well. Running off admits guilt. By sticking around, he was able to pull this bullshit.Girls on bikes really turn my crank
    • CommentAuthorben
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2010
     
    that shit's fucked up.I have DTF pants. They're crotchless. -surprisefries
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    ben:that shit's fucked up.


    Agreed. Def get a lawyer. Do everything you can to make sure that this guy is held responsible and that the police officers who clearly aren't doing their jobs are held responsible as well.clockwork ted: this is my favorite thread. sweet BJ alexi!
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    There was a big stink at the bike summit when someone got up to the mic and was like "Police officers aren't filing reports for bike vs. car accidents" and the cop representative was like "I've never heard of that" (durrrrr) So if it turns out there's no report, you should contact Police Commissioner Ed Davis, and maybe the Czarina for good measure.

    And even if you technically hit him, there's legal precedent to charge him. (That crazy doctor doucheface in CA)i mean that looks like a 10 cat bag, easy
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    cops dont give a shit because most bikers dont follow through anyways
    you think it takes 45 minutes for a cruiser to show up?
    say a cop is down and you'll have someone there in under 100seconds
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    I think we should put pressure on the city... I don't know if they have an ombudsman, or someone else, but they need repeated calls asking them what's up with this situation and demanding prompt action.

    And make sure it's Cambridge you're calling, I don't see any point in calling Boston people on a Cambridge issue.
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    whoops, dur....i mean that looks like a 10 cat bag, easy
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    Admittedly maybe Nicole would know the right people to talk to in Cambridge... I looked at the Cambridge Police website and it seemed like the public relations person and Commissioner Haas are the people to talk to...

    http://www.cambridgema.gov/CPD/Contact/
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    Even if they didn't press criminal charges you can still sue. Get a lawyer.
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    ChicagoKarl:cops dont give a shit because most bikers dont follow through anyways
    you think it takes 45 minutes for a cruiser to show up?
    say a cop is down and you'll have someone there in under 100seconds


    Injury-less assault>Cop dead or wounded.I am Humbert outside the internet, actually.
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    Looking over my notes on this, the name of officer b sounded familiar, because it is. It's officer crowley, the guy from the professor gates scandal.Girls on bikes really turn my crank
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    The newspapers would eat that up. Please tell them. Also, add that you were hatecrimed.
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    omg omg omg omg that guy likes shitty beeri mean that looks like a 10 cat bag, easy
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    So, I'm on the run, but to update, I spent almost an hour today talking with a community relations representative of the Cambridge Police today. She seemed sincerely concerned and promised meaningful action. Even if the driver does not get charged, she has promised policy changes in the way these types of accidents are reported and has promised to keep me updated on any changes. Thanks Tiny for your email, it got the ball rolling before I arrived. While she was quick to dismiss it, I backed it up and said that all but one minor detail had hit the nail on the head and it was exactly the type of concerns we had with the incident.Girls on bikes really turn my crank
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    Glad to hear my email was of some use... I should've saved a copy of what I wrote so I could remember what I said exactly, I tried to be somewhat spare with the details as I only had your initial post to work from. Also glad to hear they're seemingly taking this fairly seriously.
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    ^check your sent box for a copy?somebody turn the lights off on this place already.
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      CommentAuthortinhat
    • CommentTimeMay 6th 2010
     
    this stretch of road is brutal - too narrow to safely allow a car to pass but just wide enough to make drivers think you're "hogging" the whole road unnecessarily. i especially hate to hear this happened because i'm a big proponent of taking the lane when necessary, and i'm proud of other cyclists who are brave and smart enough to know when to use the whole lane. you did the right thing and deserve to see something done!
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    Haha you are such a faggot. "I'm not afraid to take the whole lane when it's necessary." Hahaha. **beats you up.**
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    outcold:^check your sent box for a copy?


    CPD had form email to contact 'em... form email systems often send you a copy of what you wrote, but theirs did not.
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      CommentAuthortinhat
    • CommentTimeMay 7th 2010
     
    Mephlehet:Haha you are such a faggot. "I'm not afraid to take the whole lane when it's necessary." Hahaha. **beats you up.**


    no your a faggot. i hate seeing people on bikes desperately hugging the side of the road, letting incompetent drivers think it's ok to pass when there's not enough room. by the way i'm 6'7" and weigh like 250 lbs and i eat a dozen eggs for breakfast like the guy from beauty and the beast
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    lolwut?i mean that looks like a 10 cat bag, easy
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    i think they're gonna hook up?DFL and DTF :D:D:D:D
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      CommentAuthorjoeyfresh
    • CommentTimeMay 7th 2010
     
    This reminds me of one of my favorite jokes.
    Charlie is fucking Mike in the ass, and Mike reaches under and grabs Charlie's balls and asks for a kiss. Charlie backs off, looking disgusted. Mike asks what's wrong and Charlie says "What are you, some kind of faggot?"We'll get you a cat, don't worry -t-honks
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    ffffffuckoffffff:
    no your a faggot. i hate seeing people on bikes desperately hugging the side of the road, letting incompetent drivers think it's ok to pass when there's not enough room. by the way i'm 6'7" and weigh like 250 lbs and i eat a dozen eggs for breakfast like the guy from beauty and the beast


    NO YOUR
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      CommentAuthordeadbolt
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
     
    hi. i got an email from a friend today who was hit by a cab nearly 2 weeks ago. here's what she wrote:

    "Hey Tam,


    Below is my best explaination of the story, basically i need help figuring out what to do next and would love to speak with someone whose gone through something similar. I've spoken to a few lawyers and they all told me I have 2 options. I could sue if my medical bills reach over 2000$(which they have) or i could file a criminal complaint no matter the cost of bills and file for assault with a deadly weapon.


    On Friday I was more or less run down by a cab. The incident started on Dartmouth in front of Back Bay station where I was riding on the right side of my lane. The cab driver, who approached me from behind was annoyed that I was in the lane and started to honk several times. I flipped him off in response. He caught up to me at the light on the corner of Stuart and Dart. He began screaming at me telling me "where i could put that finger" and told me if i got in his way again he would hit me. (amoung a few other things id rather not get into here) i was pretty shocked by whole reaction and waited a minute before turning down stuart (which hed already done) when i then turned onto trinity he was at a complete stop off to the right of the st...


    i rode by and he began driving again. he rode up next to me and screamed at me some more. got close enough that his car touched me, then i began to hit his window with my fist. at that point he took the wheel and turned into me. he himself called the cops, as well as one of the 35 witnesses that called 911. i have the name of a few of the witnesses who all gave the same statement to the cops...in so many words he waited for me to pass then came after me. the cops took his hackney license on the spot and he was not allowed to drive away from the scene.
    "

    if anyone would like to give some advice i'd be happy to pass it along. i've never been in an accident involving another vehicle before so i don't know what she should do. thoughts?Mattia: "I don''t usually watch porn with pickaxe, but when I do it, I make sure to be on the right website"
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      CommentAuthorStinky Cheez
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
     
    IANAL and TINLA, but I'm curious as to why, according to your friend, she has an option of going the civil suit route, or filing a criminal complaint.

    I ask because off hand I can't think of any reason she can't do both. The advantage of the latter, I suppose, is that the Commonwealth foots the bill for taking this guy to task and does all the work (and maybe she could get restitution or something?) But then you're theoretically stuck with their approach.

    She's already talking to lawyers, if she's talking to the right kind they can probably give a pretty good assessment of her odds if she decided to go the civil suit route.
    • CommentAuthorben
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
     
    I also don't see why you can't pursue both. It seems common for people to file suits in addition to any criminal charges that have been brought by the state.

    But I'm also NAL.I have DTF pants. They're crotchless. -surprisefries
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      CommentAuthorstilgar
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
     
    talk to a better lawyer, try bikeattorney.com jason and ficher, they are good.this wont hurt a bit...
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    she has an option of going the civil suit route, or filing a criminal complaint. I can't think of any reason she can't do both.


    That's because you have not even a cursory knowledge of how law works.

    talk to a better lawyer, try bikeattorney.com jason and ficher, they are good.


    Yeah, there's some solid advice. GET BIKE ATTORNEY, HE'S GOOD AT BIKE CASES! YOUR LAWYERS MUST BE SHIT.
    • CommentAuthorBRlAN Q G
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
     
    Baron Fagrot:
    she has an option of going the civil suit route, or filing a criminal complaint. I can't think of any reason she can't do both.


    That's because you have not even a cursory knowledge of how law works.


    I don't have a cursory knowledge of how law works, Mr. Fagrot/Meph. Please explain what is wrong with tiny's statement.
    • CommentAuthorviosg
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
     
    when i was hit a few years ago...
    i filed a police report. the police report was filed as a pedestrian accident. i didnt call cops because i am a dumbass. i thought i was cool.

    had to go to ER to get a few stiches on my finger.



    when i got the hospital bill i sent my insurance a copy of the report and the 1400 dollars i owed the insurance disappeared, presumably to the drive who hit me.

    sorry that happened. i know nothing about law now, but i hope you are well
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      CommentAuthornerdo
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
     
    One thing you might do is not post details of the accident on an open forum on the internet. Maybe just remove some of the exact details, like time and place?Worstcase I'll just zip tie on a seat... but i'd rather not. —Zev (who else)
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    Baron Fagrot:
    she has an option of going the civil suit route, or filing a criminal complaint. I can't think of any reason she can't do both.


    That's because you have not even a cursory knowledge of how law works.


    I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. I definitely have a cursory knowledge, and the diploma to prove it.
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      CommentAuthordeadbolt
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2010
     
    you may all be interested to know that the attorney she spoke with WAS Jason at bikeattorney.com
    she filed a police report and all that stuff. so you guys really think she should persue both options?Mattia: "I don''t usually watch porn with pickaxe, but when I do it, I make sure to be on the right website"
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    I'm trying to toe the line on not giving advice (Chris Sedition will probably make fun of me, particularly as this is a fairly anonymous forum, but for now I'm going to abide by the spirit of the rules I've agreed to). I also doubt (m)any of us are really qualified to give a really helpful response.

    As to what she should do next, I wasn't really suggesting anything, only pointing out that it's likely not entirely an "either-or" situation. Going to the bikeattorney folks seems like a good move on her part. What did they have to say about the merits of her case/her chances should she go the civil route? Did they have anything to say about the criminal-route (not that they'd be totally in the know, but they might have a sense)?
    • CommentAuthormeetball
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2010
     
    I think you have to do one after the other. Criminal and then civil, I don't think physics allow you to do both at once, but with the amount of witnesses you shouldn't need it.

    Remember: OJ won his criminal case, and lost his civil.

    Then he robbed some guy for OJ memorabilia and I think is now in jail (lulz)
    • CommentAuthormeetball
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2010
     
    when I first started reading the story I was basically thinking pff don't waste your money but with the witnesses she should be OK. Those dudes get away with more than you would believe.
    • CommentAuthorjaykato
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2010
     
    Is the Christiaan I think it is? Pretty sure it is because it would be a weird coincidence if someone with your exact name and spelling had a Cinelli Mash. I'll make the assumption.

    Isn't this like the 5th accident you've been involved in in less than 2 years? And didn't you ride your bike on 93 because you took a wrong turn? Pretty sure you should hang up the Suginos, or at the very least get brakes, preferably front and rear discs. By the way I lived with you last summer and you know my brother.

    Unsure why people think that the criminal and civil process are somehow related to each other, because they are not. One can sue a defendant civilly and the government can still pursue criminal charges against the defendant as well, or vice versa. The timing is irrelevant, other than the statute of limitations, as long as you have a course of action in tort. I have the diploma as well to back up the statement.

    First post... this one brought me out of my shell.