Not signed in (Sign In)

Category Filter

Welcome, Guest

Want to take part in these discussions? Sign in if you have an account, or apply for one below

Vanilla 1.1.8 is a product of Lussumo. More Information: Documentation, Community Support.

    •  
      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2008
     
    I got bored with contemporary fiction at a younger age. I read stuff occasionally, but if it's a newer book and I'm reading it it's either some assassin/noir crapfest, or a fantasy/scifi novel.

    While I enjoyed Fight Club and Choke, as I said before, I think the people who "LOVE" Palahniuk take him way too seriously.
    My general rule for a book is that if the premise doesn't amuse me in some way it's not worth reading (NOTE: The only things that don't amuse me are seriously stupid crap - so most good books amuse me, while most people find them "deep and moving." It's just a different way value judgment).Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
    • CommentAuthormeatball
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2008
     
    sorry I am sort of an angry old man when it comes to this shit

    EVERYTHING NEW IS BAD
  1.  
    i wanna hear about what you have about jsf. (i haven't read everything is illuminated yet. no spoilers, plz.)You're purposefully attempting to sabotage my degree project. Thanks.
    •  
      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2008
     
    ^^ HAHA. I would disagree, but that's because I really like some newer authors (newer being a relative term). Terry Pratchett, Neil Gaiman (so far, only read Good Omens so far, which he co-wrote with Pratchett), Warren Ellis...Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
    • CommentAuthormeatball
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2008 edited
     
    I admit that I read Everything is Illuminated and I saw a good deal of potential. I thought it was humorous, quirky, and unique but a bit disjointed, but it was his first book. I was curious to see what he did next. I think EL&IC was an abomination. I think he tried to rip the spirit of the main character of the Tin Drum and plug it into his own schmuck fest (he didn't even bother changing the first name - he probably thought it was witty to name him Oskar). The characters were empty. It was schmucky. And it all made it feel as though his first book didn't show promise - in retrospect, it was just more humping some disaster with really crappy schmucky characters.

    That's just the writing.

    There are also some very heavily implied rumors that a) his brother franklin (editor of the New Republic) bought him his book contract, and b) another author took the draft of Everything is Illuminated and essentially entirely re-wrote it, and was not involved in Extremely Loud hence its more juvenile qualities and lack of voice.

    I actually went to see JSF read from EL&IC at the Coolidge when he came around. Talk about spoilers, he read the END OF THE BOOK. Why? Because that's the "controversial" section where the pictures in the book depict a guy falling up the world trade center, and it was the main selling point of the book - not the words, but that sequence of images. I mean fuck, at heart it is a picture book, with straw men for characters.
  2.  
    Jewish Quarterly Review - The State of Labor in Ancient Israelclockwork ted: this is my favorite thread. sweet BJ alexi!
  3.  
    I have probably mentioned this before but its worth repeating. The Dark Tower series by Stephen King. Its long but really fucking good. I would suggest reading them before they get butchered for a movie.
    • CommentAuthorGrim Ryan
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2008 edited
     
    meatball:IMHO Palahniuk is a hack and not worth the paper his books are printed on.

    dear lord, thank you.

    Palahniuk is barely worth talking about. His subject material / supposed edginess doesn't play into it at all, he's a stupid hack writing stupid books. There are scenes in Dostoevsky that talk about impaling babies for sport and parents ruthlessly abusing their children. Palahniuk is not edgy. Palahniuk is a moron. He has his place though - during those aw'sum ang'sties of high school. seriously wtf just read Crash by JG Ballard, and move the fuck on to Mao II, growth people, growth is what we're supposed to be interested in


    exactly.Duffman Can't Breathe
    • CommentAuthorseamus
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2008
     
    "The Hour of the Star" by Clarice Lispector. It is goddawful, yet not in original Portugese, so it may actually be better in reality, though doubtful.

    Isabel Allende's "Zorro," on the contrary is quite good.
  4.  
    how do people feel about billy collins?You're purposefully attempting to sabotage my degree project. Thanks.
    •  
      CommentAuthorkaryatid
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2008 edited
     
    Most recently, I wrapped up 'Lathe of Heaven' by le Guin, 'A Scanner Darkly', from P.K. Dick, and Steinbeck's 'Of Mice and Men.'
    Those are all small, delightful books.

    I'm currently slogging through 'Omnivore's Dilema,' 'Guns, Germs and Steel,' 'Catch 22,' and 'Revenge of the Lawn' by Richard Brautigan.

    Oh, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali's, 'Infidel.' Brandon loaned it to me and I couldn't put it down or do anything but look up her interviews
    for a few days afterwards. It's both compelling and very upsetting, and very worth reading.
    • CommentAuthormannnnnn
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2008
     
    I had a bad experience with Guns, I had to read it for my sophomore world history class, which meant that I had to bring it to summer camp. Every time I opened it I fell asleep within 10 pages. I will probably never even try to read it again, that's how much sumer camp ruined it for me.
    •  
      CommentAuthorMr. Shelby
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2008
     
    i just read half of vonnegut's jailbird at work today. planning on finishing it at work tomorrow, and start wampeter's foma & granfaloons shortly after.
  5.  
    ^his playboy interview is superb.You're purposefully attempting to sabotage my degree project. Thanks.
    • CommentAuthorPugatch
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    naked on the internet by audacia ray its about women running the adult business instead of being taken advantage by it. written by a friend of mine and given to me at the release back in april, just finally got around to it.Think of bicycles as rideable art that can just about save the world
    •  
      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    ^ Melissa Gira writes 2 blogs on the sex industry and prostitution, they are both really interesting actually...

    http://www.sexerati.com/

    and...

    http://www.melissagira.com/Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
    • CommentAuthor.
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    Pugatch is 49x18:naked on the internet by audacia ray its about women running the adult business instead of being taken advantage by it. written by a friend of mine and given to me at the release back in april, just finally got around to it.


    is it good? Im hoping that its actually coming from women, and not a female front. I'm pretty sick of... well... nevermind.
    •  
      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    Btw, incase anyone's interested - Neil Gaiman posted American Gods up for free for about a month or so, I'm reading it now.

    http://browseinside.harpercollins.com/index.aspx?isbn13=9780060558123&WT.mc_id=author_AmerGods_FullAccess_022208Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
    •  
      CommentAuthorMungoRocks
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    J.G. Ballard is awesome, incidently.dongpincher 1000
    •  
      CommentAuthorkaryatid
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008 edited
     
    kirstencupcake:is it good? Im hoping that its actually coming from women, and not a female front. I'm pretty sick of... well... nevermind.


    Like Suicide Girls? Man, the owner of that site deserves a solid kick to the nuts. I don't care how good some of the photosets seem.
    •  
      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    I was enjoying Suicide Girls news/blog page, but it went downhill FAST the last few months. Only articles I read anymore are Brad Warners.. Zoe's when she bothers, and Warren Ellis's "once in a blue moon" ones...Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
    • CommentAuthormeatball
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    what do you like by him, danny?
    • CommentAuthormeatball
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    jesus motherfucking christ

    :X
    •  
      CommentAuthorkaryatid
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    ravnos:I was enjoying Suicide Girls news/blog page, but it went downhill FAST the last few months. Only articles I read anymore are Brad Warners.. Zoe's when she bothers, and Warren Ellis's "once in a blue moon" ones...


    It's still got interesting stuff, but the premise of being a women-power, empowering, alt-porn site is epically false. I can whisper you links to articles on the owner being a douche, using his wife as cover (she doesn't run the site at all), keeping girls' profiles and blogs up (with fake entries) after they quit, harassing and underpaying the models, etc.
    •  
      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    I've read all about it, heh. Not a huge fan of the site in general, just used to enjoy the news section.Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
  6.  
    So much high-brow reading!!

    When I read, when I actually have time, I like to read literature and fiction.
    Biographies, philosophy, history and the like are a bit too much like schoolwork to me.

    That being said, my favorite (fluff) books include anything written by Diana Gabaldon.
    (I sent a question into her website once and I got an email directly from her. It rocked.)
    Right now I am in the middle of Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles.

    I like to be able to lose myself in the totally different world of the book. I get really attached to my characters!

    Probably my favorite books of all time are The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy and those books that follow it, by Douglas Adams.
    Love brit humor...
    •  
      CommentAuthorMungoRocks
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    meatball:what do you like by him, danny?

    Only really read two of his novels, (The Crystal World and High Rise) but I'm starving for more. I'm almost positive I've read a third but I can't place it.dongpincher 1000
    •  
      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    ^^ Have you read his Dirk Gently stuff? It's excellent.Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
  7.  
    I have not, but I guess I will have to check it out :)
  8.  
    Dirk Gently is the manbah!
    • CommentAuthormeatball
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    man I like kirk vonnecut

    and neal gayman
  9.  
    do you mean Kurt Vonnegut?

    Because if so, than yes. He is the man.
    •  
      CommentAuthorMr. Shelby
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    vonnegut was the only famous person whom i had almost cried for when he died
    •  
      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    I was actually in a class where we were discussing one of his books when it happened. We had an interesting day.Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
    •  
      CommentAuthorMr. Shelby
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2008
     
    “What’s the only difference between Bush and Hitler? Hitler was elected.”
    - Mr. Vonnegut

    i saw him speak at case western reserve back in 2004 i believe. fun time.
  10.  
    has anyone ever read any Douglas Coupland?This is Television; Late Night Television; Scripted with Percision; a Corner Store Pulp Fiction
    • CommentAuthorPugatch
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008 edited
     
    dirk gently is the man. adams is my favorite authorThink of bicycles as rideable art that can just about save the world
  11.  
    "Proslogion" by Anselm, and complaining about his "logical" argument for G-d.clockwork ted: this is my favorite thread. sweet BJ alexi!
    •  
      CommentAuthorbrunop
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    i'm halfway through richard price's new joint "lush life". great.
    • CommentAuthor.
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008 edited
     
    karyatid:
    kirstencupcake:is it good? Im hoping that its actually coming from women, and not a female front. I'm pretty sick of... well... nevermind.


    Like Suicide Girls? Man, the owner of that site deserves a solid kick to the nuts. I don't care how good some of the photosets seem.


    I guess? Im not a big fan of those sites, and maybe the photographer in me doesn't even appreciate their photosets and thinks they have no artistic value like they were suppose to have

    But enough of that. I shouldnt have even said that.
    • CommentAuthormannnnnn
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    SammyKnuckles:has anyone ever read any Douglas Coupland?

    I started to read Microserfs, but I got distracted by too much school work and had to put it down. It was funny, from what little of it I got through.
    • CommentAuthor.
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    SammyKnuckles:has anyone ever read any Douglas Coupland?


    I've read a few quotes from his books and they are amazing.
    I really need to pick up Souvenir of Canada
  12.  
    kirstencupcake:
    SammyKnuckles:has anyone ever read any Douglas Coupland?


    I've read a few quotes from his books and they are amazing.
    I really need to pick up Souvenir of Canada


    i've read like 5 or 6 of his books. there all really good though his subject matter is very similar.This is Television; Late Night Television; Scripted with Percision; a Corner Store Pulp Fiction
    • CommentAuthorGrim Ryan
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    Anyone read House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski? i just picked it up and from flipping through it, it looks interesting.Duffman Can't Breathe
    •  
      CommentAuthorMungoRocks
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    Starting "War Fever" (Ballard again) now.dongpincher 1000
    • CommentAuthormannnnnn
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    Grim Ryan:Anyone read House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski? i just picked it up and from flipping through it, it looks interesting.

    I'm waiting for spring break to read it, it looks awesome and I've heard really good things, but other than paging through it to check out the formatting, I can't say anything about it for two more weeks.
    • CommentAuthormeatball
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    I think House of Leaves was an honest offering. A very easy read, if the formatting is keeping you from it.
    •  
      CommentAuthorravnos
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
     
    I have it. I was going to start reading it over spring break (aka now) but American Gods free online distracted me from it. I'll be starting it soon. It looks interesting if nothing else.Question Reality. "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
    • CommentAuthormannnnnn
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
     
    I've heard good things about Danielewski's newer book.
    • CommentAuthormeatball
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
     
    I haven't read it, but I've heard parts of it read. The jury is out. The style is interesting. I was not too interested in the content that was presented. There is a fine line between innovation and gimmickry.

    Anyhow I just picked U.S.! by Chris Bachelder off the stack, it's available in the remainders section at Harvard Bookstore and so far seems like it is a fun read.